Vol.3 Fry- Kroegel Trail

[Erik]

Map http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109739656233440862437.00044c35a6a1c74aaa2ba&t=h&ll=33.008052,-116.964612&spn=0.021161,0.046864&z=15

Woodson Overview http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109739656233440862437.00044cfd11656e9819fbf&t=h&z=14

Woodson Trails http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109739656233440862437.00044cfdb47c7d53d10ab&t=h&ll=33.003193,-116.980791&spn=0.042325,0.093727&z=14

Woodson Trails (topographic) http://www.efgh.com/maps/mtwoodson.gif

San Diego Overview http://climbingsandiego.com/forum/index.php?topic=267.0

Mt Woodson Vol3, Fry- Kroegel Trail
shade trees and summer potential, good crack bouldering, big concentration of classic offwidths, nice hiking or mountain biking trail
updated 23Dec2009

Stay on trail through forest - poison oak

S (left) side of trail, rock is barely visible 300' up a stream bed through trees
1   5.10?   unclimbed offwidth in poison oak forest (chockstone and slung tree w/ long sling anchor)

S side directly on trail , large boulder at junction with street just after golf course
2   V2*   steep offwidth and squeeze chimney split by a horizontal handcrack, testpiece and classic
   .7   arete on backside, inside chimney without using back of chimney
        V1   sitstart left side of arete   

S side directly on trail (after water treatment plant)
3   V0*   overhanging fingers to lieback/ hands and mantle, tree between it and trail
         .8*    downclimb on right corner, crux start

N side directly across field from previous
   V1   left side of chossy face seen from trail FA- Lanman
   V2    right side of chossy face FA- Lanman
4   V2*   arete on back (N) side, left of wide crack
   .5*    fistcrack in dihedral (bit of poison oak at base)

S side directly on trail   
5   .9*   tall slab with faint white dike

N side, directly across from previous, 10' off trail
6   V0*   overhanging handcrack  in corner with tree big in the way, crux topout
        V1*   sitstart    

7   5.5    30' chimney behind and seen from the top of the .9 slab

S side 20' up hill and behind tree, in plain sight but must be looking up
8   V0*    white dike with fist/ hand crack just right of it, big powerful pulls on incuts

S side at the little switchback in trail, directly on trail
9   V2*   seam/ shallow corner
   V?    project, thin edging thorough bulge just right

S side directly on trail
10   .8    short offwidth
   V0   mantle off of rock, left of seam
   V1   seam starting off rock
   V2*   seam starting from ground
   .9*   hands and fingers
        .8*   offwidth

        .7 featured face on S side of clump of rocks 100' S in bushes      

Trail to massive chimney and the Ogre, doesn't look like much but gets wide and good after 50', just out of sight

massive chimney 300' up hill   
   5.10? unclimbed crack on the left end of the E side
   A3+?    horizontal seam to vertical thin crack inside massive chimney FA-unknown
   5.9?   short handcrack to the right of the aid seam inside

W side of massive chimney
11   5.9*    35' flaring chimney that turns bombay at the top, gear to 4 or 5”
   5.5*   downclimb, handcrack and face

S side 50' through bushes, harder to see going W but obvious going E
12   .8*   vertical offwidth with 1” incuts on one corner to squeeze chimney, 30'
   .5   offwidth downclimb

N side across from previous, 75' from trail, obvious   
13   V1    offwidth on S side, short crux
   .8*   offwidth/ lieback on N side

S side small boulder directly on trail at a drainage   
14   .9*   short, but good powerful moves on big holds

N side directly on trail (3' splitter offwidth and a patio slab)
   5.5   slab flakes and ledge on E face seen from trail
15   5.7*   30' hands to offwidth  on N side, tie off tree anchor)
   5.10   SW corner FA- (tr) Craig Clarence
   
Dihedral directly South 300' from previous
16   V2*   offwidth in dihedral, testpiece and classic
   V0    offwidth on backside, short
   V0   chossy buckets on SW side

West (north) side 10' off trail
17   .8*   offwidth/ squeeze chimney
   .8   knobs just left of downclimb

East (south) side, directly on trail
18   V0-*    fingers to handcrack in dihedral directly on trail to 30' of alpine feeling 5.3 topout
   V0   sitstart
   V1*    flakes on W side 15' off trail, crux start

East side, directly on trail 30' south of previous
19   .8*   mantle onto bucket to slab

East side 50' from trail
20   .5    big flake to short right leaning handcrack
   
30' NE of previous         
21   V0-   grainy corner and knobs FA- Lanman

East side on trail
22   .6   short offwidth with finger crack on right side
   
Next boulder uphill behind previous   
23   V0   throw to top, campus right and mantle FA- Lanman

Old Fry-Kroegel trail   
West side, close to the North end of trail, few hundred feet from the intersection with new trail
24   V0    seam and knobs with tree next to it FA- Lanman

Send beta and first accent info for this area to erikchristopherroed@yahoo.com

[Speights]

Nice work.  So when is the book coming out?  Any info on all the obscure stuff in the schoolyard area?  Do you have any maps drawn up yet that you are willing to share?

[Erik]

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13 from trail


15 faces away from trail



16 can be seen 300' from trail


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Photo's by Sue, Ryan, and me

[Cactus]

Hey Erik,

I hope you don't mind,
I've taken your beta and photos from this forum posting and formatted everything into an easy to print guidebook.
Here's a link to the guide:

Old Version 1 has been removed.

Scroll down for the new PDF version.

- Cactus

[GH]

To both Eric and Cactus, nice job! Eric, i'm all healed up, so give me a call next time you are here and head out

[GH]

it might be my window not loading correctly but I think there there some holes in the document. just to let you know

[Cactus]

Nah, it's working fine.
The photos may not be loading properly.
Try saving it to your computer first, then open it.
That should do the trick.

- Cactus

[GH]

thanks man

[tdoughty]

Nice Job!

[Erik]

712 copyright violations

[Cactus]

There are 4 maps included in the guide including Google Earth photos in the enhanced version that I am still working on.
I'll be going out there later this week to take more photos and perform some minor brush work where needed.
And, I'll check out the parking and the best route to get from the road to the trail and make note of it.

- Cactus

[Sue]

Craig = Craig Clarence

[Cactus]

Ok, I've tweaked the formatting, added a cover page, and some cool Google Earth screen shots.
I've done enough for now.
It's time to go climbing.

Word doc has formatting issues.
Scroll down for PDF version

- Cactus

[Sue]

Hey Cactus the formatting seems a bit messed up. maybe save it as a PDF instead of  a word doc?

[Cactus]

The guide has been converted from Word to PDF.
If you have problems viewing it, save it first, then open it.
Right click and select 'Save Link As' to save it to your hard drive.

PDF Version
Mount Woodson: Vol. 3.2 / Fry-Koegel Trail Bouldering Guide

As for the trail and access from the road...
I went out there on Sunday and mountain biked most of the trail.
I've photographed the route I used in order to show how to get out there from the road
and plan to incorporate it into an updated version of the guide.
But, before I go posting that stuff I want to post a description from Mountain Bike Bill.
He puts it very nicely.
Whether we are mountain biking, climbing or as I prefer, a combination of the two, it all seems relevant to any of us using the trails in that area.

Mountain Bike Bill's Fry-Koegel Trail Description




East Side Social Trails

Let me start off by saying that I try to avoid putting trails on my site that are less than legit as it has gotten me some eNastygrams in the past.   
In this case I think these trails are worth mentioning as I believe they reduce potential user-resident conflicts. 
The Fry-Koegle trail between Archie Moore road and Point J goes right along the see-through backyard fences of numerous property owners.
This section is also a fairly steep section.  I felt a little weird riding very slowly (climbing, grunting, and wheezing) almost in someone's backyard.   
The trail usage/wear indicates I am not the only one... 

There is a network of fire roads and single tracks shown in yellow (There are more trails than what I have mapped).   
The Fry-Koegle trail is shown in blue and the service road up to the peak is shown in red.   
Since I do not know the status of these trails  I'm calling them social trails. 
One thing is for certain, these trails are seeing more traffic than the Fry-Koegle trail along the homes.   
At Point J, there is a well used connector between these social trails and the Fry Koegle trail. 
My assessment is that the residents and routine trail users of this area prefer to stay away from one another's backyards and
are using these social trails and the connector to bypass all but a couple of backyards.   
You can access this network off of the service road or via an unmarked paved road between the CDF station and Archie Moore road. 
If you know the real story, or you would like to share your opinion about this network  please contact me.

[Erik]

I made several subtle, insignificant, changes that differ from Cactus's printable version, which is by the way, very nice (my biggest complaint would be the last line of page 6 should be the 1st line of page 7).

If you want gps coordinates. Click on "view in google earth" (above the image, of course you'll also need google earth which is free to download).
The thumb tack locations are accurate. If I couldn't plainly see the rock, I used gps coordinate. When the satellite images were updated showing the burn, and uncovering the rock from above, I verified these locations.

Lay maps over each other (Fry- kroegel, Junctions, and trails) and the picture starts coming together.
Click on "save to my maps" (you will need a google account), click on "Erik" to view all my maps, save the ones you like to "my maps". You will need to do this to lay one map over another.

One thing changed, #4 said "tiny bit of poison oak at base" now it says "poison oak at base". First visit I didn't see any, them saw a little, and then saw even more.
Think the thing to do would be take some Round-up in a small bottle that has a brush in the lid and paint some on the bottom of the leaves without spraying or dripping it on other plants. You don't have to get it all, cause the poison oak is a vine, and everything in the area might be one plant and hopefully the Roundup will kill it all.